Syria....

[re3too]

So what say ya'll?

[Pop-O]

I say we are way overdue in taking care of the USA and its people and should let the rest of the world take care of themselves. When ALL of our people are taken care of in the way they should be then send help' but stay out of their politics and wars. That ole BS about if we don't help they will hate us don't make it. HE!! they hate us anyway and always will.

[E_]

I am VERY torn.

The political side of me says we should leave it alone and stay out of it. I don't feel we should arm either side etc.
I do feel the current dictator there is a BAD BAD man and should go away.
If we could know exactly where he is and bomb HIM with a smart bomb and no one really know it was the USA I would be ALL for it.
None of our troops should be on the ground there. It should be a NATO operation and we should play nicer with Russia as THIS is what happens when we don't. Basically Russia feels Syria is more important to them than we are since we treat them like a step child.


The human side of me says we should go in there and protect the children at all costs and get them out. I just can't handle seeing innocent people suffer.


Put the two together and I would only support something covert that would not ruffle Russia's feathers. (I could care less about Iran). I don't feel we should be in their business. I am amazed Obama hasn't done something without congress like he did in Libya which was a "crime".

[No Patience]

We can't police the world, we tried it and now we are broke. No matter what we do they will hate us. Let them wipe out each other and stay out, unless there is a threat to us.

[E_]

http://www.lex18.com/news/obama-has-bip ... ria-strike

...but it doesn't matter what we think. They will just say there IS a threat to us... lol

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor and House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi also said they will support Obama because the U.S. has a compelling national security interest to prevent the use of weapons of mass destruction.

Anyone wonder if THESE might be Iraq's WMDs that everyone has since tried to say didn't exist?

[re3too]

Anyone wonder if THESE might be Iraq's WMDs that everyone has since tried to say didn't exist?

YEP! And I too am torn but believe that we must act with our heads and not our hearts in this case. It frosts my nonexistent ba!!s that we have even let this go so far. Typical weak foreign policy, IMHO!

[Sunset Lady]

We can't police the world, we tried it and now we are broke. No matter what we do they will hate us. Let them wipe out each other and stay out, unless there is a threat to us.

I agree.

Anyone wonder if THESE might be Iraq's WMDs that everyone has since tried to say didn't exist?

Yep I thought about that too. I think some believe they could be.

[Lock5]

Let me get this straight, the bad guys are bombing the bad guys in Syria.........and we are going to make it better by bombing the bad guys in Syria............yeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaw that sounds just as dumb as the other decisions DC has been making.

[Nebrios]

Logic says stay out of it....we are broke....let the other un partners go in debt....or let them fund our wars....but that wont happen....they will just ask for another debt extension,get it ,and do it again....sad part is it will be our loved ones,friends,and neighbors going over there. Being killed by god knows what.....all for what...our freedom...bs...total bs....and the sheeple of america will believe it all with thier yearning hearts.....

[E_]

The media was all over swaying the public yesterday. I love how they are using the same WMD approach.

[WaterWings]

Well, like E, I'm torn.. but leaning toward staying the he// out! It will ultimately be another Iraq and a complete disaster with no clear winner. I do agree if something must be done it should be a UN effort.
SAD part is they have now known for weeks we might be coming so what would any intelligent person do... hide any real possible targets.
This is already a major PR fiasco and now no matter what happens we will be taken down another notch in the worlds eyes.

[katie]

Anyone wonder if THESE might be Iraq's WMDs that everyone has since tried to say didn't exist?

YEP! And I too am torn but believe that we must act with our heads and not our hearts in this case. It frosts my nonexistent ba!!s that we have even let this go so far. Typical weak foreign policy, IMHO!

Speaking of WMD, Iraq and the whole stinking mess... we were always told this was always about oil. Of course, all of us believed it about the president (Bush) that went to bat because he was told they did have them (WMD). Well, I DO believe this is or was part of their stash. When you want to get down to why the heck they all hate us so much, possibly this also has something to do with it.... (I have never heard anything on the news about it). Now, many may not think much of this, but please understand, this is the world's FOOD SUPPLY we are screwing around with. Don't think much of this now?, go see how many melons you can buy at the store that have (sustainable) seeds in them...

http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... der-siege/

We have now dictated their seed supply (Iraq) just as has been done here in the USA. This is criminal if you ask me. I'm sure we would be amazed at the depth of deception. My govt makes me sick

Oh, and stay the heck out of it, I'd say we've done enough! There have always been women & children who suffered in every conflict, it's inevitable. The line jumpers want to play on our sensitivities by stating we can't have the killing women & children... we must stay out.

[Nebrios]

You can thank monsanto for those genetic seeds that wont grow....hell ask any soy bean farmer about monsanto...or better yet...find a farmer who refuses to grow monsantos seeds....global domination by the big corporations.....its here ....control the food and water and you control all.....

[JLA]

Bring every single American soldier home and tell the rest of the world to figure it all out. We need to use all those returning soldiers to close and secure all of our borders, stop all payments to foreign countries, and sit back and watch the rest of the world crumble. We have a history of bailing out every country that has had a conflict, with cash and military support, and end up staying forever (Germany, Korea, Iraq, etc.). I understand we want to have bases around the world for logistical reasons, but we should not be protecting those countries with American lives.

If Congress and the Senate are in favor getting us into another war, then they need to be the first ones on the ground. That would be a win-win.

[E_]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 10230.html

MIDDLE EAST NEWSUpdated September 6, 2013, 11:09 a.m. ET.Iran Plots Revenge, U.S. Says
Officials Say Intercepted Message to Militants Orders Reprisals in Iraq if Syria Hit.

By JULIAN E. BARNESand ADAM ENTOUSCONNECTWASHINGTON—The U.S. has intercepted an order from Iran to militants in Iraq to attack the U.S. Embassy and other American interests in Baghdad in the event of a strike on Syria, officials said, amid an expanding array of reprisal threats across the region.


The U.S. has intercepted communications between Iran and Shiite militants in Iraq involving orders to the militia groups to attack the U.S. Embassy and other U.S. interests in Baghdad in the event of an American strike in Syria. Julian Barnes has more. Photo: AP.
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Military officials have been trying to predict the range of possible responses from Syria, Iran and their allies. U.S. officials said they are on alert for Iran's fleet of small, fast boats in the Persian Gulf, where American warships are positioned. U.S. officials also fear Hezbollah could attack the U.S. Embassy in Beirut.

While the U.S. has moved military resources in the region for a possible strike, it has other assets in the area that would be ready to respond to any reprisals by Syria, Iran or its allies.


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Those deployments include a strike group of the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier and three destroyers in the Red Sea, and an amphibious ship, the USS San Antonio, in the Eastern Mediterranean, which would help with any evacuations.

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The U.S. military has also readied Marines and other assets to aid evacuation of diplomatic compounds if needed, and the State Department began making preparations last week for potential retaliation against U.S. embassies and other interests in the Middle East and North Africa.

U.S. officials began planning for a possible strike on Syrian regime assets after the Aug. 21 attack outside Damascus in which the U.S. says Syrian government forces killed over 1,400 people using chemical weapons. The U.S. military has prepared options for an attack and beefed up its military resources in the region, including positioning four destroyers in the Eastern Mediterranean.

That process slowed last weekend when Mr. Obama said he would first seek an authorization for using military force from Congress.



Iraqi Shiite fighters on Thursday bury a comrade killed fighting on the side of the Assad regime in Syria.
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A delay in a U.S. strike would increase opportunities for coordinated retaliation by groups allied with the Assad government, including Shiite militias in Iraq, according to U.S. officials.

The destroyers positioned in the Eastern Mediterranean are equipped with—in addition to Tomahawk missiles that could be used against Syria—the Standard Missile-3, which could be used to intercept ballistic missiles should Iran launch a retaliatory strike, officials said.

Israel has so far been the focus of concerns about retaliation from Iran and its Lebanese militant ally Hezbollah. The commander-in-chief of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard Corps said last week that an attack on Syria would lead to the "destruction of Israel."

The State Department issued a new alert on Thursday warning against nonessential travel to Iraq and citing terrorist activity "at levels unseen since 2008." Earlier this year, an alert said that violence against Americans had decreased. That reassurance was dropped from the most recent alert.

The Iranian message, intercepted in recent days, came from Qasem Soleimani, the head of Revolutionary Guards' Qods Force, and went to Iranian-supported Shiite militia groups in Iraq, according to U.S. officials.

In it, Mr. Soleimani said Shiite groups must be prepared to respond with force after a U.S. strike on Syria.

Iranian officials on Friday denied their government was plotting attacks in Iraq against the U.S.

Alireza Miryousefi, a spokesman for Iran's United Nations mission, said the allegation was baseless and meant to "provoke the Congress" into authorizing a strike on Syria.

"We should remember that relying on U.S. intelligence reports from anonymous officials will repeat the tragedy of Iraq," he said.

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Iraqi Shiites have been sympathetic to the Alawite-dominated government of Syria and oppose U.S. strikes against the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

U.S. officials said the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad was one likely target. The officials didn't describe the range of potential targets indicated by the intelligence.

Attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad have fallen since American forces left Iraq. In the past, Iranian-trained Shiite groups have fired rockets and mortars at the embassy, at the urging of the Qods Force, a paramilitary arm of the IRGC.

Militants also have used suicide bombers and IEDs to attack Americans leaving the embassy compound, one of the largest American diplomatic facilities in the world, located in Baghdad's fortified Green Zone.

Syrians could also respond with "a vicious offensive" against the opposition inside Syria, said Aaron David Miller, a former top Middle East negotiator in the State Department who now is a vice president at the Woodrow Wilson Center. Such a move, he said, would be a way "to demonstrate defiance" without running the risk of hitting American targets.

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Some officials believe a direct response from the Syrian or Iranian governments is less likely than reprisals from allied militant groups, such as Hezbollah.

Hezbollah, whose members have been fighting alongside government forces against the Syrian rebellion, could be used to launch rocket attacks against U.S. military assets or American allies, including Israel.

When the U.S. went to war with Iraq in 1991, Saddam Hussein fired rockets at Israel. Officials in Mr. Assad's government have threatened to strike Israel, as well as Syria's neighbors Jordan and Turkey if they aid the U.S.

For days, American officials have said they were particularly concerned about potential attacks on Turkey and Jordan. U.S. officials haven't reinforced defenses in those countries, but both already have Patriot batteries capable of shooting down incoming missiles or fighter planes.

Jordanian officials have said they also fear they could be hit by rockets or that Syrian forces would force new waves of refugees across the shared border, overwhelming the kingdom.

Other U.S. allies also are worried about an increased threat of retaliation.

French officials said they are concerned Hezbollah could target the hundreds of French troops taking part in a U.N.-backed peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon.

Israeli officials have made clear they would respond forcefully if, in response to U.S. strike, Hezbollah fires rockets into the country.

—Jared A. Favole
contributed to this article.

[Nebrios]

Well it appears that a full scale holy war is in the hands of our muslim president....hmmm

[re3too]

SMH.....